Westport Fuel Systems Inc (WPRT) Q4 2024 Earnings Conference Call March 31, 2025 01:30 PM ET

Company Participants

Ashley - Vice President of Investor Relations
Conference Call Operator - Operator
Conference Call Operator - Operator
Conference Call Operator - Operator
Dan Selis - Chief Executive Officer and Director
Bill Larkin - Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Chris Dendrinos - Analyst, RBC Capital Markets
Eric Stein - Analyst, Craig Hallam Capital Group
Rob Brown - Analyst, Lake Street Capital Markets

Conference Call Operator

Well, Vice President of Investor Relations, please go ahead.

Ashley

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Westport Fuel Systems Conference call regarding results for the fourth quarter and 2024 fiscal year. This call is being held to coincide with the press release containing Westport's financial results that were issued earlier today.

On today's call, speaking on behalf of Westport, is Chief Executive Officer and Director Dan Selis and Chief Financial Officer Bill Larkin. Attendance on this call is open to the public, but questions will be restricted to the investment community. You are reminded that certain statements made on this call and our responses to certain questions may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. and applicable Canadian securities law. And as such, forward-looking statements are made based on our current expectations and involve certain risks and uncertainties.

With that, I will turn the call over to you, Dan.

Dan Selis

Thanks, Ashley. Good morning, everyone. Earlier this morning, not only did we announce our 2024 fourth quarter and full year results, but we also announced an exciting transaction that would lead to the divestment of our light duty business.

This proposed transaction is expected to enable Westport to become significantly stronger from a financial perspective and allow us to taper our focus on creating solutions for hard to decarbonize segments of the long haul heavy duty transport and industrial space. Given the excitement around this transaction, we have adjusted the flow of this call so we can focus our time on outlining the proposed transaction, the potential that it offers Westport and its shareholders. So today, following a few opening remarks from me, we'll kick the call off with Bill walking through the fourth quarter and year-end results.

And then I'll dive into the details of the transaction before we go to our question and answer period. Despite revenues for the year being down by 9% as compared to the previous year, primarily as a result of the HPDI revenue now sitting in suspira, our dedication to our three key pillars positioned us to deliver improvements across the board, including in our gross profit and gross profit margins. Our adjusted EBITDA and, for one of the first times ever, we delivered positive net cash from operations.

I'm very proud of how Westport performed in the 2024 period and recognize we still have a lot of work in front of us as we continue to evolve the company in 2025. I'll now hand the call over to Bill so he can provide some more information on the financial results. Bill.

Bill Larkin

Thank you, Dan. Moving on to our fourth quarter and year-end results. As expected, the transition of the heavy-duty OEM business into Syspera impact of revenues for both the fourth quarter and full year 2024.

This is partially offset by an increase in sales in our light duty segments. In the fourth quarter of 2024, we generated $75.1% million in revenue. This is a 14% decrease compared to the prior year period. For the full year of 2024, revenue was $302.3% million, a 9% decrease compared to the previous year.

In line with our key priority of improving operational excellence and reducing costs, we delivered improved margins in both the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2024. Gross margin increased to $14.3% million, or 19% of revenue, in Q4 of 2024. This is up from $8 million, or 9% of revenue, in Q4 of 2023.

For the full year of 2024, gross margin increased to 57.6% million, or 19% of revenue. This is up from 48.9% million, or 15% of revenue, for the full year of 2023. An increase in sales to established European customers rather than emerging markets also helped to improve our margins.

We demonstrated continued improvements in our adjusted EBITDA metrics for both the fourth quarter and year-end of December 31st, 2024. For the quarter, we reported an adjusted EBITDA loss of $1.8% million. This is significantly less than the adjusted EBITDA loss of $10 million in the fourth quarter of 2023. For the full year, we reported an adjusted EBITDA loss of $11.2% million This is a considerable improvement compared to adjusted even a loss of 21.59% for the full year of 2023.

Regarding the liquidity, our cash and cash equivalents at the end of 2024 were 37.69%. That's compared to 54.99% at the end of 2023. The decrease is primarily driven by debt payments, partially offset by cash provided by our operating and investing activities.

2024 marked one of the first times Westport generated positive cash flow from operations, with net cash provided by operating activities of $7.2% million. A reduction in operating losses, along with an increase in cash collected from accounts receivable, including the sale of Italian value-added tax receivables of $5.9% million. Further improvement in cash provided by operating activities.

which were partially offset by inventory related to our heavy-duty OEM and light-duty businesses. Net cash provided by investing activities was $4.59% million for the year, driven by proceeds from the sale of investments of $39 million, primarily related to Suspiria, partially offset by purchases of property, plants, and equipment of $16.99% million, and our capital contributions to Suspiria of $9.99% million. That cash used in financing activities was $25.2% million in 2024.

In January 2024, we obtained a new term loan of $3.89% million from UniCredits that has principal repayments starting in 2025. During 2024, in addition to our scheduled principal payments on our term debt, we paid in full the revolving credit facility with RBC, which $15.29% million was outstanding on this credit facility at the end of 2023. We closed this revolving financial facility with RBC in November of 2024.

As you read in our press release and financial results released this morning, based on our projected capital expenditures, debt servicing allegations, and operating cash requirements in our current business plan, we are projecting that our cash and cash equivalents will not be sufficient to fund our operations for the next 12 months. This morning, we also announced the sale of our light duty business, which will strengthen our balance sheets. In addition, we plan to continue driving our cost reduction initiatives.

We have made many positive changes throughout 2024, including improvements in margin and adjusted EBITDA, as I reviewed earlier. We believe this transaction leads the business in the right direction while allowing us to focus through with our commitment to strengthening the balance sheet and developing the HPDI and high pressure controls and systems segments. With that, I will pass the call back to Dan, who's going to walk through our divestiture announcements.

Dan Selis

Dan. Yeah, thank you, Bill. So this morning, Westport announced that it has entered into an agreement to divest its light duty business, which includes the light duty OEM business, delayed OEM, and independent aftermarket businesses.

In addition to significantly strengthening our balance sheet, as Bill mentioned, the proposed transaction simplifies our competitive strategy and streamlines our operations, allowing Westport to focus on HPDI technology in our Suspiria joint venture and on our high pressure controls and systems business where we see the strongest opportunities for growth. The transaction is valued at 75.1% million or 69.5% million euros with the potential for an incremental 6.5% million or 6 million euros to be paid in earnouts if certain conditions are met. We anticipate closing the transaction by the end of Q2 2025, subject to the receipt of shareholder approval and other customary closing conditions the transaction significantly improves our financial position and moving forward we are committed to maintaining a stronger balance sheet the proposed transaction would bring forward more cash today than we anticipated under the light duty business's five-year cash flow projections and allows us to fund near-term organic growth opportunities for both suspira and the high pressure controls and system segments It also enables us to consider bolt-on acquisitions.

Finally, post-transaction, our organization will be much smaller and more focused. We will intend to align the cost structure with that of a smaller, more efficient organization. The resurgence of natural gas and renewable natural gas globally provides a market opportunity for Westport, particularly in North America, where natural gas infrastructure is abundant and RNG production is growing.

In addition, we believe that hydrogen will play a role in hard-to-decarbonize mobile applications long-term. Both Suspira and our high-pressure controls and systems segment have products and technologies enabling the use of lower-carbon fuels today to address decarbonization with net zero and low-carbon fuels, while also having an affordable solution when zero-carbon hydrogen becomes more available. With this announcement, our goal is to revert back to our roots and become a more focused organization.

Westport has 30 years of experience delivering component solutions and developing HPDI technologies. At its core, Westport is a clean tech innovation company that provides OEMs with simplified solutions to decarbonize challenging segments of the heavy duty transport and industrial markets, utilizing a variety of alternative fuels, Through SUSPIRA, the HPDI fuel system does the on-engine work, while our high-pressure controls and system segment products do the off-engine work. As our global population continues to grow, transportation of goods remains critically important.

The global heavy-duty truck market is expected to reach almost 2 million new trucks on the road in 2025. As this segment grows, providing solutions to enable emission reductions is critical. Despite technological advancements, decarbonizing long-haul heavy-duty transport remains a challenge, with substantial reductions in CO2 emissions still to be realized.

In fact, in Europe, the technology currently making the largest impact on heavy-duty, long-haul trucking GHG emissions are natural gas and biogas-fueled internal combustion engines, with HPDI leading the way. While OEMs have explored multiple alternatives, widespread adoption has been limited While natural gas and biogas fueled internal combustion engines have seen modest adoption, such adoption nevertheless eclipses the adoption of any other carbon mitigating solutions. In addition, fleet operators are prioritizing cost effectiveness and total cost of ownership with emissions often taking a secondary role.

Therefore, for solutions to gain traction, they must maintain performance and be cost effective. Hydrogen is recognized as a solution for the long haul applications long term. Meanwhile, demand continues to grow for low and zero carbon alternatives in hard to decarbonize applications, such as heavy duty trucking.

To address these challenges, Westport, through SUSPIR, is advancing fuel agnostic heavy duty transport related technologies, growing its natural gas and biogas solutions today, while laying the groundwork for hydrogen adoption in the future. The HPDI fuel system is the most affordable, commercially viable option that does not compromise on performance and that can deliver net zero carbon emissions and heavy duty transport. As additional hard to decarbonize applications emerge in the transport sector, high pressure systems and controls will be needed regardless of the powertrain and complement the transition from natural gas to renewables to hydrogen.

Our high pressure controls and system business designs, develops and produces and sells components for transportation and industrial applications. Development over the last five years has focused on the hydrogen market, but with recent growth in CNG, we intend to leverage our high pressure expertise and grow the CNG product portfolio, providing effective solutions for decarbonization by utilizing alternative fuels today while advancing zero emissions hydrogen solutions for the future, with preference to those serving heavy duty off-road and industrial applications. We plan to combine our controls capability direct with our tank valves, regulators, and pressure relief devices, moving us toward a system-based solution.

This transition is planned to include the advancement of our product portfolio in addition and additional CNG applications, leveraging the capabilities in our high-pressure controls and systems business to shorten the timeline to enter the North American market with a product offering that can run on RNG today and hydrogen in the future. As we look to the future, Westport looks to expand its addressable market, playing a larger part of the ecosystem in mobility and industrial space that isn't easily electrified. In closing, first, thank you to everyone who joined the earnings call today.

Your continued support is invaluable to us. We are excited about Westport's future and we want to move through 2025 with purpose, creating value for our shareholders and cultivating opportunities to grow as a company. We believe that shifting our focus to our HPDI and our high-pressure controls and system segments will provide us with the best possible future.

We understand that a lot is proposed to be changing, and with change comes hard work, but we're keen to embrace. Thank you again for joining us today.

Conference Call Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.

Our first question comes from Eric Stein from Craig Hallam Capital Group.

Eric Stein

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions.

Dan Selis

Hey, good morning, Eric. Good morning.

Eric Stein

Hey, hello. So maybe just starting with HPDI, I know you don't break out units, but clearly a step up in revenues in Q4. So maybe if you could just, you know, from a high level, talk about kind of unit trends.

that you saw in the corridor, reasons for that, and then, you know, any detail you can give on expectations, you know, whether it's units or growth for 2025.

Dan Selis

Sure, sure. Well, certainly we did see Q4 volumes go up, you know, with our OEM customer increasing production builds, and we're going to see those carrying on through into 2025. So what we're seeing is the the marketplace adopting this technology, it's starting to get its legs underneath it.

Of course, we're dealing with a global market and the plan all along has been that this business would grow over the first two, three, four years and it's in fact doing that. We're hitting the plan versus production volumes and we feel very good about where it's headed.

Eric Stein

Got it. And then maybe just an update sticking with HPDI. I know that you've certainly expressed confidence in past calls and investor outreach on additional OEMs.

. I know that that is a mandate of the joint venture and its partners. Where do things stand there.

Dan Selis

Well, the efforts to bring in other OEMs continues hard. I'm actually sitting in a foreign country right now, just coming out of meetings with additional OEMs working at it. And as you know, we're not allowed to use their names.

They don't like that very much. But that's, in fact, where I am right now. So those efforts are picking up steam.

You know, I think the biggest thing that we should be watching is this this pendulum shift in the natural gas world. I think that we're seeing a world that's swinging back from electrify everything or fuel cells for everything. We're feeling the weight of that coming and so the commercial discussions with other OEMs are happening and continuing to pick up pace.

Eric Stein

Got it, got it. And then maybe just I'll sneak in one more and then turn it over. Can you just remind me how much debt is tied to that light duty business.

I sense that it's a decent amount, but if you could just kind of dial that piece in for us that you no longer have, that would be helpful.

Bill Larkin

Yeah, essentially all the debt except for approximately $7 million is related to the light duty business. So you're looking. That's gone, right.

Eric Stein

I mean, that'll be gone.

Bill Larkin

Yes. Yeah. So it'll just be the EDC debt that remains with the business, with us.

Eric Stein

Okay. That's great. Thank you.

Conference Call Operator

All right. Thank you, Eric.

Conference Call Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Brown from Lake Street Capital Markets.

Rob Brown

Good morning.

Conference Call Operator

Good morning, Rob.

Rob Brown

Just to clarify the last point, your sale price of $73 million is sort of net of everything, and then that portion of debt will be gone, so your enterprise value of the whole is over, I guess, over $100 million. Is that right.

Bill Larkin

Well, you're going to offset that against the cash on the other side. Okay.

Rob Brown

Okay, so you'll met after the debt. Got it. And then maybe on the strategy, kind of the strategy of the business going forward, what's sort of the revenue rate of the business that you retain.

And I know you laid out a number of the components that you'll look to grow, but maybe a sense of how you approach that market, how long it takes to get those products more into the natural gas sites, well, hydrogen, and just maybe sort of a sense of the strategy of the ongoing business.

Dan Selis

Yeah, the answer is really two different buckets. Obviously, the HPDI or Syspera bucket We're on a glide path of increasing volumes per plan that were built into this business to start it up. Those are going to continue to go at that pace.

Obviously, landing another OEM doesn't give us immediate revenue bump because any OEM we land will go through the development cycle, but it gives a commitment to the technology. The other piece of our business remaining is the high pressure controls and systems. And the growth that we have been seeing over the last year has all been hydrogen-based components.

We want a significant amount of new business, but the production launches for most of that business is two, three years down the road. What we're doing now, recognizing what's happened in the marketplace, We're going to be pivoting hard – we are pivoting hard to go and create opportunities for those same types of pressure control components and systems in the natural gas market. So we see a huge swing towards the compressed natural gases in North America, and it's basically the same technology that we use for the hydrogen controls, right.

So what our plan is, is while we're – you know, the programs will come down the road for hydrogen, we need to be selling into the CNG systems now. And that's what we're pivoting to do. I don't have any specific timeline to talk to on when that business is gonna start rolling in.

It's an initiative that we've pivoted to because we've listened to the market. And of course, some investors have brought it up. It's for sure, it's a.

and a huge opportunity, we believe, in North America that we're going to take advantage of.

Conference Call Operator

Great. Thank you. I'll turn it over.

Conference Call Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again.

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Dendrinos from RBC Capital Markets.

Chris Dendrinos

Yeah, good morning and congratulations on the transaction. Thank you. I guess maybe to start, just going back to the strategy, and I think you all had mentioned that M&A could be a component of this. Could you maybe just talk about what types of things you would be considering and is there a you know, is it the U.S. or North America that you're looking to build a bigger presence in, or could this be something that's global in scale.

Just help us flush that thought process out a little bit. Thanks.

Dan Selis

Sure, sure. You know, our strategy really is looking to take the controls that we have, the high-pressure controls, and building it out into a full system capability. So we'll be looking at potential opportunities to, in fact, do that.

We think that the The larger immediate opportunity is definitely in North America for that, but it is a global business. There's compressed natural gases used all over the world. We're going to be looking to build out that business to be shifted from being a components play to a systems play.

We do have our technology capabilities for the full engine control system. combine that with the pressure controls and there's going to be some opportunities in the market to build that out.

Chris Dendrinos

Got it. And then I guess maybe from an operational standpoint, do you have the R&D capabilities in-house to pursue that today or is this going to be a piece of the story where you're shrinking some of the, I guess call it employee footprint with the sale, but then looking to add new employees and in these kinds of growth areas. Thanks.

Dan Selis

Sure. Sure. The high pressure controls is, is, is a R and D and engineering group completely separate from the light duty business in Europe.

It's located in Cambridge, Ontario and in North America and, uh, just outside of Toronto. And, uh, um, they are fully equipped to, uh, operate independently and, um, build out this from a technical perspective, build out this business.

Chris Dendrinos

Thank you.

Conference Call Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to Dan Selai, CEO for Closing Remarks.

Dan Selis

Great. Thank you very much. Well, again, thank you to everyone joining the call today and appreciate the good questions.

I know we'll have further discussions and and we are very excited about our future. We're going to continue to stay very focused managing this business with discipline and excellence. That's one of the biggest things that I think we can look back on is shifting the culture to a very disciplined organization so that as we make strategic decisions, as we execute operationally, we're doing it in a very professional way and we're going to manage our costs very, very, very tightly and not get out of control on spending.

So I'm proud to say that we're a well-run business with a team that's completely motivated to run out this strategy and provide a great future for the shareholders. So thank you very much.

Conference Call Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating.

You may now disconnect.